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both of those questions is "no." He reported that are three reasons for that. The first is that Mr. Cehn <br />has indicated that there is very, very little likelihood that there is a present danger from radioactive <br />materials at the Bemal property and that it is unlikely that there is a current health hazard that should <br />compel them to test right now. The second point is that Ms. Holbrough has indicated that the standard, <br />customary practice for timing of intensive environmental investigations for large projects like this (even <br />in large projects with known radioactive hazards of much greater dimensions than those suspected in the <br />Bemal property) is to defer the testing until after the certification of the EIR, to a point when the project <br />is sufficiently defined with specifics related to the exact grading, building locations, and boundaries to <br />enable the testing to have meaning and to directly relate to the health exposure that will exist after the <br />project is built and while the project is being built. He noted that testing done at this time will not create <br />the comfort that the Planning Commission, the Pleasanton community, and San Francisco would need to <br />know that the project is safe. The third point is that Mr. Cehn advises that in the unlikely event that <br />radioactive materials are found on the Bernal property in a quantity that would cause concern and in the <br />event that the Pleasanton community exercises jurisdiction and requires removal of the materials to abate <br />the potential health hazard, that can be done in a safe way. He advised that techniques have been <br />developed to assure the safety of workers and that the people who live in the neighborhood are not <br />exposed. <br /> <br />Mr. Lymbum introduced Joel Cehn, a radiation physicist. Mr. Cehn advised that he measures radiation <br />in the environment and makes recommendations on safety and clean-up, if it is required. He noted that <br />he also deals with the work place safety. He advised that he was asked to look at the potential for <br />radioactive contamination at the Bemal property. He advised that he looked at the operations of the <br />Interstate Nuclear Laundry facility which was the only real nuclear facility that fed the sewage treatment <br />plant which was adjacent to the Bemal property. He reviewed those operations for the potential for them <br />to be "handing-off' the radioactivity that they handled to the sewage treatment plant, which would then <br />dispose of it at the Bernal property. He advised that the Nuclear Laundry closed in 1995, and it received <br />laundry from companies and laboratories that used radioactive materials. He advised that when this <br />company received laundry it would check it with Geiger counters to sort it. Highly radioactive materials <br />were placed in a drum for disposal and would not be laundered. The remainder was either dry-cleaned <br />or wet-cleaned, as appropriate. The wet laundry produced wastewater which was then filtered to filter <br />out the solids, the filtered water was placed in a holding tank, and when the tank was filled it was tested. <br />If the test indicated that the water met the water quality requirements for discharge to the sewer, it was <br />discharged. Mr. Cehn advised that his review of the State of California Department of Health records <br />indicated that they always met that, and often met that with by a factor of 100 or 1000 times lower than <br />the water quality discharge limits. He advised that the wastewater went to the sewage treatment plant <br />adjacent to the Bernal property where it was processed with all of the other wastewater the plant <br />received. The process produced a sludge and that sludge was disposed of at several locations on the <br />Bernal property. <br /> <br />Mr. Cehn advised that there is a potential for trace amounts of radioactivity to be in the sludge, and there <br />may even be very small amounts, but because the discharges were so small according to the records that <br />were kept, and the discharges were in solutions (there were no "particulates") only a portion of the <br />radioactivity would end up in the residual sludge. He advised that when he measures radioactivity at <br />sites he always finds radioactivity in soil because there is natural radioactive materials in all soil, and he <br /> <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Page 3 July 16, 1999 <br /> <br /> <br />